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Shirley  Rollheiser's avatar

Thank you for having this talk with Scott Horton! I learned so much in all the styles of politics and war making. Another eye opening in the layers of what is some one's idea of truth. The truth does come out in time but often not in time for any peoples' or groups' benefit.

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Robin Collins's avatar

The claim that NATO provoked the invasion is more complex. I think expansion not a helpful strategy (although understandable for those countries that signed up.) But what was the real relationship between Russia and NATO; was it as Putin claimed? I wrote: While NATO's presence near Russia’s borders was a concern, Putin has more than once specified the actual grievance. Before his “special military operation” in February 2022, Putin had clarified that the problem was not NATO itself, but the creation of anti-Russia entities “in territories that were historically ours” (Al Jazeera 2022). Examining the Kremlin’s evolving stance toward NATO is also illuminating. During Boris Yeltsin’s presidency in January 1994, security assurances were critical in facilitating the Trilateral Statement among the US, Russia, and Ukraine signed by Presidents Clinton, Yeltsin, and Kravchuk. This agreement paved the way for the transfer of nuclear warheads from Ukraine. In December 1994, a Memorandum on Security Assurances reaffirmed commitments by Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom to uphold Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty, and existing borders. It also pledged to refrain from threats or use of force against Ukraine’s territorial integrity or political independence (United Nations 1994). In 2000, Putin discussed the potential for Russia to join NATO with U.S. President Clinton, as revealed in interviews by David Frost in 2000 and Tucker Carlson in 2024. However, this idea, previously raised by Mikhail Gorbachev in 1990 and documented by David Hoffman in the Washington Post, was ultimately not pursued by NATO (Carlson 2024; Hoffman 2000). Contrary to the argument that NATO expansion was a primary provocation, Robert Person and Michael McFaul, in their work “What Putin Fears Most” (2022), cite numerous instances where Russian leadership demonstrated willingness to collaborate with NATO. For instance, former Russian President Boris Yeltsin signed the Russia-NATO Founding Act in 1997, outlining a broad agenda for cooperation. Putin supported NATO's invocation of Article 5 at the UN Security Council for the 2001 intervention in Afghanistan and facilitated military assistance, including allowing U.S. military bases in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan. In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Putin acknowledged NATO's role and expressed readiness to expand cooperation, suggesting that the enlargement of NATO would cease to be contentious with improved relations (NPR 2001). Addressing the Baltic states’ NATO accession, Putin remarked, “We cannot forbid people to make certain choices if they want to increase the security of their nations.” He also expressed absolute conviction in Ukraine’s engagement with NATO and emphasized the legitimacy of NATO and Ukraine’s mutual decisions regarding their relationship (Kuchma 2002; President of Russia 2002, 2010). At the 2010 NATO summit in Lisbon, then-President Dmitry Medvedev affirmed cooperation on missile defense and expressed optimism about future relations with NATO, with no mention of NATO expansion (Person and McFaul 2023). This array of Russian positions suggests NATO expansion has been generally anticipated by the Russian leadership, maybe not celebrated, and opportunities for collaboration with the alliance are sometimes seriously considered and are even acted upon.

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